As a just novice poster ~ above this forum please prolong some patience if this concern has already been discussed and also answered at length, but to sustain myself in the absense the BSG I determined to re-watch the complete collection again indigenous the beginning.

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At the end of “33” Adama finds a note in his soldier saying that there are only 12 Cylon models. Currently whether the may period or just a psychological block i can’t work out that left this for him.Any thoughts or guidance on this ? or am I simply being a duffus


Dradis, we never ever knew or found out that left that article for him. It is among the mysteries left for us to speak about, et nausium, forever.

Some people think the Cavil did that so that the F.F. Would certainly be found.

Some think it to be Baltar…?

What execute you think?


Well i’m glad i’m not having some mental break down and forgot miscellaneous important. After see the finale and also all the various times once things happened to acquire them come the end I guess: v I’ll need to go v the head personalities leaving the message.Could be a tiny left field yet I obtained the feeling that the head personalities are the ones who manipulated the continuance of the cycle until such time that humankind learns the lesson and breaks the bike itself.


According come Ron Moore (I forget the source: interview? Podcast?) it to be Baltar. (I’d constantly assumed it was Baltar as he to be the just one, at that point in the series, who know around the 12 cylon models.)


Armando:

According come Ron Moore (I forget the source: interview? Podcast?) it to be Baltar. (I’d always assumed it to be Baltar as he was the only one, at that suggest in the series, that know about the 12 cylon models.)

Thanks Armando. Did I miss out on something however how go Baltar understand there to be 12 models in ~ the end of “33”


Actually, i’m pretty certain that keep in mind was in ~ the finish of the mini-series. I’d need to re-listen come the commentary because that the mini it might have been in there whereby RDM discusses it. I recognize for sure it to be in very early episode podcast that did. It to be mentioned more as a behind the scene thing, he to be oriiginally intending for it to it is in revealed that it was Baltar the left the note but story way they decided to leave it open & unanswered. It’s sort of similar to their original intention the the human Caprica 6 claims “I to be wondering once you’d gain here.” come in the courtyard ~ above Caprica to be going to it is in Roslin. Obviously that entire storyline to be dropped because that Roslin, she character take it an entirely various direction.

So the answer come your concern is, us officially do not know.

As to your concern of just how Baltar knew there to be 12 models, Caprica 6 speak him in the mini-series that there are 12 models & she is #6 throughout her expose of the plans to nuke the nests & he finds the end his replicate in bringing about armageddon.


Armando:

According come Ron Moore (I forget the source: interview? Podcast?) it was Baltar. (I’d always assumed it to be Baltar together he was the only one, in ~ that suggest in the series, who know around the 12 cylon models.)

I think it is in the commentary on the mini series. The component when head six claims “you’re no on there side…” come Baltar in the corridor that the Galactica is supposed to it is in them leaving Adama’s quarters.


Yes, i listened to that RDM podcast eons ago. I double-confirm that RDM stated that it was Baltar. It to be Caprica six who said him.


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CylonMATRIX:

Yes, ns listened to the RDM podcast eons ago. Ns double-confirm the RDM claimed that it to be Baltar. It was Caprica 6 who called him.

Thanks come the cumulative hive mind. No doubt further questions will surface throughout the re-watch.


My concern is - if it to be from Baltar - walk Adama understand that it was from Baltar? and if the didn’t know who it was from - why would certainly he not inquiry it? If the did understand - why i will not ~ he question exactly how Baltar involved have this knowledge?


missmuffet:

My concern is - if it was from Baltar - walk Adama understand that it was from Baltar? and also if that didn’t know who it to be from - why would certainly he not question it? If that did recognize - why i will not ~ he question exactly how Baltar came to have this knowledge?

… and also that’s how RDM unravels a story…

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missmuffet:

My inquiry is - if it was from Baltar - did Adama recognize that it was from Baltar? and also if that didn’t understand who it to be from - why would certainly he not question it? If that did recognize - why i will not ~ he question how Baltar involved have this knowledge?

I doubt Adama knew it was from Baltar.

Why would he not question it? He already had watched what the cylons to be doing v the hybrid, and also he had actually his run in through Leoben. So ns don’t find it that hard to have actually him to speak “I don’t recognize if this is true however untill proven otherwise ns going to store this in mind”

Make sense?


I doubt Adama knew it to be from Baltar.

Why would certainly he not inquiry it? He already had watched what the cylons to be doing with the hybrid, and he had his run in through Leoben. So ns don’t uncover it that tough to have him say “I don’t understand if this is true however untill proven otherwise ns going to keep this in mind”

Make sense?

Okay, sure, however - wouldn’t he desire to understand who on his ship has direct knowledge that how countless skinjobs there are? That way that someone has actually had contact with at the very least one foe agent. I’m no saying there was any way to uncover out that left the - yet you’d think he would at least wonder about it…He just picked increase the note and was like “eh it s okay there space 12 models” No reaction at all. The way the scene was shot the made me think that I had actually missed something. It just always struck me as odd.


hansioux April 2, 2009, 9:50am #14

I remember RDM saying it’s Baltar. Ns think it to be at a con.


Aset April 2, 2009, 9:57am #15

Miss Muffet, ns agree the reaction in the scene is odd. Adama tho does not recognize who left the note. I’m kind of disappointed lock did not follow up on the thread. Story wise it deserve to be explained away the Adama may have actually conculded that it was one of the hidden cylon’s who left the note to throw confusion right into the command staff. He may have kept the in mind in the subsequent persuit of concealed cylons in the fleet, we simply never observed him recommendation it.

Now that i think around it have the right to anyone remember the human leadership in reality being TOLD over there are just 12 models?


Now that i think about it can anyone mental the person leadership in reality being TOLD over there are only 12 models?

I in reality can’t. I think it’s one of those things that just happenned the we never saw top top screen.

I’m putting the secret of the keep in mind writer in the same box together the glowing spines and also what was Starbuck?


It’s conceivable the Baltar to reduce the keep in mind on Adama’s workdesk as a an initial step the trying to atone because that his complicity in enabling Caprica Six access to the colonial Defense Mainframe.

Although as we every know, his ultimate demeanor has much to be wanted over the next five years.

To it is in honest, I’m an ext curious around whether or no he knew Ellen was a cylon as soon as he ran his Cylon Detector blood test on her earlier in Season One. Too bad we never got an answer.


According come Ron Moore (I forget the source: interview? Podcast?) it was Baltar. (I’d constantly assumed it was Baltar together he was the just one, at that suggest in the series, who know around the 12 cylon models.)

I always thought it was Baltar, since if us recall the step from the Miniseries as soon as Six expose Baltar’s function in the destruction of the colonies, she claims there space twelve models that cylon, and also she’s number six. At least when we see Adama receive the note, the only human that us the viewer have actually seen who isn’t a cylon that has that info is Baltar.

I was thinking that perhaps Adama wasn’t too keen top top finding that left the note since so much time and effort to be spent remaining on the run and ferreting the end the sleeper cylon models in the RTF. But I likewise agree v everyone who has actually said the at this suggest it’s simply speculation.


I believe it was on brand-new Caprica that they identified who all the Cylon models were. I believe Baltar or Roslyn at some point say they only saw 7 Cylon models, however knew there were 12. Very same thing through D’Anna, we never saw the Colonials reaction come finding the end she was a Cylon.

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It’s kind of comparable to their original intention that the human Caprica 6 says “I to be wondering when you’d obtain here.” to in the courtyard top top Caprica was going to it is in Roslin. Obviously that whole storyline to be dropped because that Roslin, she character take it an entirely various direction.

Whaaaaaaaaaa?!?!

I feel favor a negative BSG nerd for not understanding that. What might Six have actually been doing through Roslin? do the efforts to gain close come Adar? Anyone recognize any more about that dropped story?